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February 08, 2009

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Stephane Rodriguez

Given what you say on maths and science, I can only wonder what you might think about the abuse of so-called math in the context of financial trading. The way that particular misuse of maths is being publicized anytime traders brag about their wonderful modelling of brownian motion, being quants, and other things like that, I can only feel the insult being thrown at the entire math community.
Your opinion?

Wes

I am not sure exactly what your question is. You seem to question the use of analytic skills to achieve abnormal gains in financial markets. If so, then you might have issues with managed funds, who use not only math but other privilege information.

Economically speaking, since these techniques are well-known, their benefits get passed on to investors through competition, while also bolstering the coffers of these middlemen (although high, that could also be consider the fair market premiums).

While my other classmates are well off working at hedge funds, I decided against finance, because I felt I could both prosper and invent at the same time. Unfortunately, I am still have yet to achieve either.

Going into finance is like making a deal with the devil--in which you make a tidy sum in return for a stressful, unexciting work.

Stephane Rodriguez

"Going into finance is like making a deal with the devil--in which you make a tidy sum in return for a stressful, unexciting work."

I agree on that, that is why I am contemplating this as a secondary activity.

I forgot to mention that I was specifically thinking of automated trading, and in fact automated day trading (since that does not make much sense otherwise) : you know, a full open/close round-trip within seconds. The logic behind it is : even if in such a small time you make just a few cents, iterating on a 24/7 basis, combined with 2-digit leverages, you can consider making a living off it, even substantial money.

In automated trading, you try to build automated inspectors that soon become automated agents (that do everything including opening and closing positions). And in forums we constantly hear about the Graal on the subject, the automated inspector that would guarantee money making.

Rachel

I am a Computer Engineering graduate which is closely related to a Computer Science course. In any way, computer science and Mathematics really need to be unified. Besides, you can't learn computer science if you're not good in math. Math is the major subject in taking up this course from day 1.

Gary Bender

Perhaps you should read the "Art of Computer Programming" by Knuth, or take an algorithmics, theory of computation, or coding theory course, just to name a few. Every programmer should also read Udi Manber's "Introduction to Algorithms — A Creative Approach".

Wes

I have read or am currently reading "Art of Computer Programming" (The mathematic precursories in volume 1 and various chapters of interest in volume 2, which is focused on seminumerical algorithms) and Knuth/Graham's excellent book "Concrete Mathematics."

Xtype

Math and geometry are unified.

Right now people are working on basic logics that are the foundations of traditional mathematics. For instance this idea that MATH is seperate from reality is one of the unfortunate accidents of cultural history.

Our senses detect inequalities in surfaces and structures in the real world and mathematics is a language to describe the forms, structures, actions and relationships in the real world.

If you want to see math's importance to computer science, look into logic and the philosophy of logic.

Start at the basics, in my opinion George Boole's the "laws of thought" is a great book to go over just to read boole's insights into how the working of the mind, our natural language and mathematics are related.

hedy

I am a Computer Engineering graduate which is closely related to a Computer Science course. In any way, computer science and Mathematics really need to be unified

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