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August 27, 2004

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Sanjay

Actually, LookOut also can index your hard drive and I've found that it is a great way to quickly find files on my hard drive. It is also fairly efficient since I never notice it actually indexing .. it uses idle time to index and shuts down as soon as you start using the pc.

Sean McLeod

BTW Explorer's search functionality does use the indexing service if it has been enabled and has done so for the last 4-5 years since Windows 2000 was released.

Try searching for a piece of text on two machines with hundreds or thousands of documents with one with the indexing service enabled and the other without.

The Explorer search appears to return the results from the indexing service almost immediately but generally continues with a regular brute force search as well. Probably to cover files that haven't been indexed yet and/or files for which there is no indexing IFilter implementation I'd guess.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/professional/help/default.asp?url=/windows2000/en/professional/help/SAG_INDEXtopnode.htm

My main complaint is that MS doesn't ship the indexing service in XP with a larger set of IFilter's. They only cover Office doc formats, plain text and html. They don't include (licensed or otherwise) IFilter's for other popular document file formats, e.g. Adobe PDFs etc. which some of the 3rd party indexing services do.

BTW, you can download an Adobe PDF IFilter implementation from Adobe. Just a bit buggy to install sometimes.

Stuart Radcliffe

My personal favourite at the moment is Copernic. This has the advantage over X1 of being free and over LookOut of not requiring to be hosted within Outlook. It also has a nicer, more polished interface and a very handy desktop searching facility. You can also search the Web (using AllTheWeb) from within the program. I've previously been using LookOut but I'm going to be uninstalling it and moving to Copernic.

Sam Prince

It's also worth noting that when searching for "A word or phrase in the file" with XP's search function, unless you tweak the properties of the indexing service, it won't search for that text inside files with unfamiliar extensions. Even though the indexing service isn't running! It used to work properly in Windows 98, not sure about Win2k.

The tweak:

Start>Run...>ciadv.msc (OK)
Right-click in white space>Properties>Tick "Index files with unknown extensions"

Adam M.

Sam: Good tip on forcing Indexing Service to index files with unknown extensions. Already knew of that one myself, but the fact that it's non-obvious turns many people off to the tool.

The reason I finally turned Indexing Service off is that it's an either/or proposition. If you use IS, you can't choose to use the regular search to look inside of files on a per-search basis. Every so often, I find myself needing to locate a system file that mentions a particular executable name, or something obscure like that. IS made this impossible.

By using a combination of Copernic Desktop Search and the built-in Windows search tool (w/o IS) I get the best of both worlds. The ability of CDS to index both my Outlook folders and message attachments is especially nice.

Tony

I found some of the same things. I posted my comparison of Copernic, Yahoo! and Google Desktop Searches. Microsoft (without the Toolbar Search) did just fine, but not because it's great, just because nothing is very good yet.

The comparison is at http://www.livejournal.com/users/bloggit/3764.html

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